{"id":297,"date":"2007-06-26T21:39:11","date_gmt":"2007-06-26T20:39:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cestanahoru.org\/?p=297"},"modified":"2012-10-12T20:49:21","modified_gmt":"2012-10-12T18:49:21","slug":"jak-se-chodi-s-ateistou","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cestanahoru.org\/?p=297","title":{"rendered":"Jak se chod\u00ed s ateistou (?)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Po letech samoty se najednou objevil \u010dlov\u011bk, se kter\u00fdm je v\u00e1m dob\u0159e \u2013 a co v\u00edc, zd\u00e1 se, \u017ee by v\u00e1m s n\u00edm tak mohlo b\u00fdt dokonce cel\u00fd \u017eivot. Je \u010destn\u00fd, spolehliv\u00fd, pracovit\u00fd, pozorn\u00fd&#8230; Ach! Krom toho, \u017ee jste ka\u017ed\u00fd \u00fapln\u011b jin\u00fd, to m\u00e1 jen jeden mali\u010dkat\u00fd h\u00e1\u010dek: v\u00e1\u0161 mil\u00fd je ateista. Uk\u00e1zkov\u00fd ateista, \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd hledaj\u00edc\u00ed typu \u201en\u011bco je nad n\u00e1ma\u201c, p\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b \u201ec\u00edrkev k \u017eivotu nepot\u0159ebuju\u201c (kter\u00fd to jen nechce p\u0159iznat).<!--more--><br \/>\nHned na za\u010d\u00e1tku mu to naserv\u00edrujete p\u011bkn\u011b natvrdo: Jsem katoli\u010dka a to celkem ortodoxn\u00ed a nem\u00edn\u00edm na tom v\u016fbec nic m\u011bnit. P\u0159iprav se na to. V\u00e1\u0161 mil\u00fd se m\u00e1lem k\u00e1c\u00ed pod st\u016fl a pak se obratem za\u010dne b\u00e1t, \u017ee mu d\u00e1te ko\u0161em, kdy\u017e on je takov\u00fd oby\u010dejn\u00fd, \u201enorm\u00e1ln\u00ed\u201c (= n\u011b\u010d\u00edm takov\u00fdm nezasa\u017een\u00fd) \u010dlov\u011bk. \u00da\u017easn\u00e9.<br \/>\nKonzultujete to s kdek\u00fdm, v\u00e1\u0161 far\u00e1\u0159 vypad\u00e1, \u017ee padne do mdlob, teta slibuje (jsem jednou tvoje kmotra), \u017ee jestli kv\u016fli n\u011bmu p\u0159estanete chodit do kostela, vlastnoru\u010dn\u011b ho p\u0159eraz\u00ed vejp\u016fl.<br \/>\nZbytek sv\u011bta nech\u00e1pe, co furt \u0159e\u0161\u00edte. V\u017edy\u0165 jde p\u0159ece o to, zda svou odli\u0161nost budete um\u011bt tolerovat \u2013 pak je v\u0161echno v po\u0159\u00e1dku&#8230;<br \/>\nRodi\u010d\u016fm (jeho rodi\u010d\u016fm) se neobvykl\u00e9 sklony mil\u00e9 rad\u011bji hned nep\u0159iznaj\u00ed, aby si p\u0159edem nevytvo\u0159ili negativn\u011b zabarven\u00fd obr\u00e1zek. P\u0159i prvn\u00edm setk\u00e1n\u00ed sta\u010d\u00ed tak cca hodinka u kafe, a u\u017e se v\u011bnuj\u00ed sv\u00e9mu obl\u00edben\u00e9mu konverza\u010dn\u00edmu tematu &#8211; kritice c\u00edrkve. Vy tam sed\u00edte s v\u011bdom\u00edm, \u017ee jste (a r\u00e1di) jej\u00ed sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed; tr\u00e1v\u00edte 1x t\u00fddn\u011b ve\u010der v kostele, p\u0159\u00e1tel\u00edte se s kn\u011b\u017e\u00edmi, jezd\u00edte do kl\u00e1\u0161tera&#8230; &#8211; a diskutuj\u00edc\u00ed rodi\u010de o tom nemaj\u00ed ani tucha.<br \/>\nOdjedete na v\u00edkend na exercicie, v\u00e1\u0161 mil\u00fd propadne depres\u00edm. Obvykle ve va\u0161\u00ed nep\u0159\u00edtomnosti m\u00edv\u00e1 abstinen\u010dn\u00ed p\u0159\u00edznaky, te\u010f se p\u0159id\u00e1v\u00e1 nep\u0159\u00edjemn\u00fd pocit, \u017ee jste za n\u00edm mohla p\u0159ijet, ale zvolila jste rad\u011bji kl\u00e1\u0161ter. Tedy a) jste dala p\u0159ednost n\u011b\u010demu (n\u011bkomu) jin\u00e9mu a b) nav\u00edc n\u011b\u010demu, co absolutn\u011b nelze pochopit (toti\u017e pro n\u011bho). V\u00e1\u0161 mil\u00fd se p\u0159ekvapen\u011b pt\u00e1 s\u00e1m sebe, jestli n\u00e1hodou ne\u017e\u00e1rl\u00ed, a to na samotn\u00e9ho Boha. Jeho\u017e existenci nav\u00edc neuzn\u00e1v\u00e1. Vypr\u00e1v\u011bn\u00ed o meditac\u00edch a hodin\u00e1ch kle\u010den\u00ed je pro takov\u00e9ho \u010dlov\u011bka tak\u00e9 p\u016fvabn\u00e9.<br \/>\nV jak\u00e9msi mil\u00e9m pojedn\u00e1n\u00ed o partnersk\u00fdch vztaz\u00edch jsem \u010detla, \u017ee \u017eena mus\u00ed um\u011bt v mu\u017ei vyvolat pocit, \u017ee je pro ni prost\u011b JEDIN\u011a ON na prvn\u00edm m\u00edst\u011b (i kdy\u017e to samoz\u0159ejm\u011b nen\u00ed pravda, prvn\u00ed budou v\u017edycky d\u011bti \u2013 no a ten mu\u017eskej pak n\u011bkde daaaleko za nimi&#8230;). U n\u00e1s je to jednoduch\u00e9 \u2013 m\u016fj mil\u00fd jasn\u011b vid\u00ed, \u017ee proti tomu naho\u0159e prost\u011b nem\u00e1 \u0161anci. J\u00e1 mu nic nalh\u00e1vat nem\u00edn\u00edm a tak p\u0159izn\u00e1v\u00e1m, v tomto p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b m\u011b \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 \u017eensk\u00e9 triky nenapadaj\u00ed. Ale jak se pak m\u00e1 ten m\u016fj velk\u00fd siln\u00fd mu\u017e c\u00edtit? (Kdy\u017e ho nav\u00edc por\u00e1\u017e\u00ed entita z jeho pohledu tak pochybn\u00e1.)<br \/>\nTen, kdo nem\u00e1 v mal\u00edku katolick\u00e9 po\u010dty 3=1, si holt h\u016f\u0159 p\u0159edstav\u00ed, \u017ee kdy\u017e je jeden prvn\u00ed, ten druh\u00fd nemus\u00ed b\u00fdt nutn\u011b na druh\u00e9m m\u00edst\u011b ;).<br \/>\nA to u\u017e v\u016fbec nemluv\u00edm o po\u017eadavku p\u0159edman\u017eelsk\u00e9 \u010distoty. P\u0159edstava, \u017ee p\u0159istoup\u00edte na obvykl\u00fd \u201esv\u011btsk\u00fd\u201c model \u2013 velice nep\u0159\u00edjemn\u00e9. Co pak budete d\u011blat: \u017e\u00e1dat shov\u00edvav\u00e9ho kn\u011bze o rozh\u0159e\u0161en\u00ed? To je ryz\u00ed pokrytectv\u00ed. (Uzn\u00e1v\u00e1m, \u017ee s c\u00edrkv\u00ed \u010dlov\u011bk nemus\u00ed \u00fapln\u011b ve v\u0161em souhlasit; do jak\u00e9 m\u00edry si v\u0161ak lze n\u00e1bo\u017eenstv\u00ed p\u0159izp\u016fsobovat \u201ena m\u00edru\u201c?) Nebo se holt p\u0159estanu \u00fa\u010dastnit sv\u00e1tost\u00ed a z\u016fstanu chodit do kostela \u201ena n\u00e1v\u0161t\u011bvu\u201c? Co ze m\u011b bude???<br \/>\nAle jak n\u011bco takov\u00e9ho vysv\u011btlit ateistovi? (Kdy\u017e nav\u00edc obdob\u00ed Starc\u016f na chmelu m\u00e1te u\u017e oba d\u00e1vno za sebou&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>Je v\u00edra d\u016fvodem k rozchodu d\u0159\u00edv, ne\u017e d\u00e1te vztahu v\u016fbec \u0161anci se rozvinout? Nen\u00ed rychl\u00fd \u00fat\u011bk zbab\u011blost\u00ed, volbou toho jednodu\u0161\u0161\u00edho \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed, strachem se m\u011bnit, u\u010dit, sd\u00edlet, otv\u00edrat&#8230;?<br \/>\nA co po mn\u011b vlastn\u011b chce B\u016fh?<\/p>\n<p>Proto\u017ee se sd tv\u00e1\u0159ila, \u017ee by toto t\u00e9ma mohlo b\u00fdt d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9, a proto\u017ee c\u00edt\u00edm, \u017ee jsem ho jen velice povrchn\u011b nakousla, pokus\u00edm se je\u0161t\u011b n\u011bco dodat&#8230; Neodpov\u00edm na ot\u00e1zky, kter\u00e9 jsem vznesla; ale mo\u017en\u00e1 se mi poda\u0159i odpov\u011bd\u011bt na n\u011bjakou jinou.<br \/>\nJe to samoz\u0159ejm\u011b v\u00fdzva. \u010clov\u011bk mus\u00ed nutn\u011b p\u0159ehodnotit v\u00edru, tak jak ji \u017eil dote\u010f. (A to nen\u00ed snadn\u00e9 a p\u0159\u00edjemn\u00e9 &#8211; a\u0165 u\u017e je to v\u00edra je\u0161t\u011b &#8222;d\u011btsk\u00e1&#8220;, teprve se formuj\u00edc\u00ed, nebo v\u00edra, se kterou u\u017e si \u010dlov\u011bk n\u011bco od\u017eil&#8230;) . Proto\u017ee najednou se mus\u00ed vyrovn\u00e1vat s t\u00edm, \u017ee to, co je pro n\u011bj tolik podstatn\u00e9 (ide\u00e1ln\u011b nejpodstatn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed), jeho partner v\u016fbec nedok\u00e1\u017ee sd\u00edlet. T\u00edm, jak se tomu druh\u00e9mu p\u0159ibli\u017euje, nutn\u011b p\u0159ej\u00edm\u00e1 &#8211; alespo\u0148 j\u00e1 si to mysl\u00edm &#8211; v r\u016fzn\u00e9 m\u00ed\u0159e jeho \u00fahel pohledu. Tak nap\u0159. pohled rodi\u010d\u016f m\u00e9ho mil\u00e9ho obsahuje post\u0159eh, \u017ee neznaj\u00ed far\u00e1\u0159e, kter\u00fd by nem\u011bl b\u0159\u00ed\u0161ko (= c\u00edrkev se um\u00ed postarat, aby se m\u011bla dob\u0159e). M\u016fj mil\u00fd zase t\u0159eba nech\u00e1pe, jak n\u011bkdo, kdo v \u017eivot\u011b partnersk\u00fd (man\u017eelsk\u00fd) vztah neza\u017eil, m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt povol\u00e1n v n\u011bm jin\u00fdm radit.<br \/>\nSlova, kter\u00e1 mne jako k\u0159es\u0165ana pohnou a napln\u00ed l\u00e1skou a vd\u011b\u010dnost\u00ed k Bohu, by m\u00e9mu mil\u00e9mu zn\u011bla naprosto cize. Uv\u011bdom\u00edm si to ob\u010das p\u0159i k\u00e1z\u00e1n\u00ed nebo p\u0159i p\u0159edn\u00e1\u0161ce, \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m si pak, jo, kdyby tady te\u010f vedle m\u011b sed\u011bl.. &#8211; asi by jen nech\u00e1pav\u011b (a odm\u00edtav\u011b?) vrt\u011bl hlavou&#8230;<br \/>\nTak\u00e9 se mi zd\u00e1, \u017ee se mi te\u010f obt\u00ed\u017en\u011bji \u010dte Bible. \u010clov\u011bku ob\u010das nalistovan\u00fd text nesedne &#8211; to se snad st\u00e1v\u00e1. Jen m\u00e1m dojem, \u017ee s t\u00edm nov\u00fdm pocitem ateisty stoj\u00edc\u00edho vedle m\u011b se to st\u00e1v\u00e1 n\u011bjak \u010dast\u011bji.<br \/>\nStejn\u011b jako se najednou t\u011b\u017eko ch\u00e1pe, \u017ee ten, kdo z\u016fstal Bo\u017e\u00edm Slovem naprosto (jak se zd\u00e1) nezasa\u017een, je p\u0159eci dobr\u00fd a cenn\u00fd \u010dlov\u011bk. A je-li takov\u00fd, pro\u010d tedy&#8230; nevid\u00ed&#8230; nech\u00e1pe&#8230; ?<br \/>\nNicm\u00e9n\u011b: to v\u0161echno, co se kolem v t\u00e9to situaci d\u011bje, je zaj\u00edmav\u00e9 a podn\u011btn\u00e9. Nut\u00ed v\u00edc a nov\u011b p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161let. A to je p\u0159eci dob\u0159e.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Po letech samoty se najednou objevil \u010dlov\u011bk, se kter\u00fdm je v\u00e1m dob\u0159e \u2013 a co v\u00edc, zd\u00e1 se, \u017ee by v\u00e1m s n\u00edm tak mohlo b\u00fdt dokonce cel\u00fd \u017eivot. Je \u010destn\u00fd, spolehliv\u00fd, pracovit\u00fd, pozorn\u00fd&#8230; Ach! Krom toho, \u017ee jste ka\u017ed\u00fd \u00fapln\u011b jin\u00fd, to m\u00e1 jen jeden mali\u010dkat\u00fd h\u00e1\u010dek: v\u00e1\u0161 mil\u00fd je ateista. Uk\u00e1zkov\u00fd ateista, \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":16,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cestanahoru.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/297"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cestanahoru.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cestanahoru.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cestanahoru.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/16"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cestanahoru.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=297"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.cestanahoru.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/297\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4648,"href":"https:\/\/www.cestanahoru.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/297\/revisions\/4648"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cestanahoru.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=297"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cestanahoru.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=297"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cestanahoru.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=297"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}